The league's most cursed franchise, the determiners of floor and ceiling, the merits of Zac Taylor, and more in our final mailbag of the offseason
The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL
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🗓️ 18 July 2025
⏱️ 71 minutes
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We're deep into July. Training camp is right around the corner. NFL people have all taken their vacations. It's official...the offseason is over. And with that comes the end of regular TAFS mailbag episodes. In our final mailbag of the offseason, Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen tackle questions on the league's most cursed franchise, the most important non-QB factors for floor and ceiling, Zac Taylor and his merits, Nick Caserio and his merits, one last question on fandom, and a whole lot more.
Hosts: Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen
With: Michael Beller
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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| 0:35.3 | Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. I'm Robert Mays. It's the final mailbag of the summer. I'm Robert Mays. |
| 0:38.2 | It's the final mailbag of the summer. |
| 0:41.0 | I'm back from vacation, moving this to Friday because we've got some other stuff that we wanted to run a little bit earlier this week. |
| 0:46.5 | But really enjoyed digging into our last mailbag with Derek Classen and Michael Beller. |
| 0:51.6 | Sincerely appreciate everyone who took the time to send in questions. |
| 0:55.0 | Let's get to that discussion right now. |
| 1:01.3 | It's not Monday, but it is mailbag day here on the athletic football show, and it is the |
| 1:06.3 | last mailbag of the 2025 off season. |
| 1:10.6 | We're going to be releasing this, I believe, on Friday, and I'm going |
| 1:14.2 | to be leaving on my training camp travels tomorrow. I'm going to be at a training camp practice on |
| 1:19.4 | Sunday. So the offseason, as we define it here, Derek, on the athletic football show, is over. |
| 1:26.1 | We are ramping up toward the season, and it flew flew by and I'm not going to complain about that. |
| 1:31.2 | I am very, very excited to be around some actual football and some actual football conversations |
| 1:35.3 | again. |
| 1:36.2 | You know what? |
| 1:36.9 | If you asked me that like a week and a half ago, I don't think I would have agreed. |
| 1:41.0 | I think I would have been like, nope, I'm very much like still feel like we're good without football, but it was literally like two days ago. I was like, man, I'm kind of itching a little bit. Like, I'm kind of itching to get some real football again. So the fact that we're here, the fact that training camp is here. And I feel like the mailbag now is like, it literally is like the perfect when we're done with the mailbag we're into the new season like |
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