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Consider This from NPR

The lasting impact of the administration’s changes to health science

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 31 August 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

The Trump Administration has made significant changes to the departments in charge of public health. So what does that mean for the health of average Americans and to the future of public health research?

NPR’s Scott Detrow speaks with Dr. Craig Spencer, an emergency medicine physician who also teaches public health policy at Brown University.

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0:00.0

When President Trump appointed Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to head the Department of Health and Human

0:04.4

Services, the goal was clear.

0:06.5

Make America healthy again.

0:08.3

Make America healthy again.

0:09.8

Kennedy, who promotes vaccine disinformation, has been a longtime skeptic of the experts

0:14.6

who set health policy for the United States.

0:17.2

And over the course of the past year, he has made major changes to governmental institutions and policies, driving out scores of experts and officials.

0:26.0

In an unprecedented move, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is replacing all members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

0:35.4

Thousands of federal health agency workers lost their jobs last week.

0:39.6

Whole laboratories and divisions were shut down. Universities and other institutions doing medical research could lose out on billions of dollars of federal funding.

0:49.0

This past week, Kennedy and Trump fired the head of the Centers for Disease Control, Susan Menares, just weeks

0:55.4

after she'd been confirmed by the Senate. Manares reportedly refused to go along with Kennedy's

1:00.6

orders on changing vaccine policy and the boards that help set it. Several other officials

1:05.5

have followed her exit, including Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the now former director of the National Center for Emerging

1:11.8

and Zoonotic infectious diseases. My concern right now is that there is a gutting of those

1:18.3

scientific professionals from the agency. The recent turmoil has sent shockwave through the

1:24.5

public health sector, leading some to expect the worst.

1:27.9

More confusion, more chaos, more uncertainty, and I think, unfortunately, a lot more sickness.

1:33.4

Consider this. The Trump administration has made massive changes to the departments in charge of public health.

1:39.3

So what does that mean for the health of most Americans?

1:42.3

We will hear from an emergency medicine physician and public health

1:45.4

policy professor. From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow. This message comes from Wise, the app for using

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