The last Israeli to negotiate with the Palestinians - with Tzipi Livni (Part 2)

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🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Share on Twitter/X: https://tinyurl.com/nvmznb7m Tzipi Livni has served as a minister of eight different cabinet ministries under three prime ministers: Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert, and Benjamin Netanyahu. Her positions have included Justice Minister, Foreign Minister and Vice-Prime Minister. She has also been the official leader of the opposition. As foreign minister, Tzipi Livni led negotiations with the Palestinian Authority, she was a key government figure during Israel’s disengagement from Gaza and during Hamas’s subsequent takeover of Gaza. She was foreign minister during Israel’s Second Lebanon War and during Israel’s operation to take out Syria’s nuclear reactor. She began her service as a member of the Likud Party, and then the Kadima Party, and later the Hatnua Party and Zionist Union. Earlier in her career, Tzipi served in the Mossad (including in the elite unit famous for being responsible for the assassinations following the Munich massacre). No major Israeli political figure has had more recent experience trying to negotiate a two-state solution than Tzipi Livni.

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0:00.0	We live in a tough neighborhood. You know what? You've asked me about my parents.
0:04.6	My mother used not to kiss or hug us.
0:08.8	Yes, if you would come like this, she said no way.
0:11.8	And she was asked by a family member who came from San Francisco
0:16.2	why don't you kiss and hug your kids and she said because this is a tough
0:20.0	neighborhood and I cannot spoil my children. They need to be strong. So this is the situation and there are no miracles of ministers unleashing the army. Let the army win. Slogans are not the answer. It's more complicated
0:36.9	than that. And now for part two of our conversation with the Cipi Livni. If you have not
0:49.8	listened to part one we encourage you to you to that first before listening to this episode.
0:55.8	Here's part two with Zippy Livni.
0:58.3	Okay, so I guess during any of these phases of negotiations that you were involved with,
1:07.0	did you ever wrestle with the question of there's so much debate inside Israel about recognizing should Israel recognize can
1:15.8	Israel recognize the notion of Palestinian self-determination the Palestinian right to
1:20.5	self-determination we asked the question last but I think it's coming to
1:24.5	sharper focus after October 7th. Do the Palestinians accept the right of Jewish
1:28.5	self-determination? Is there a narrative in Palestinian society that accepts the existence and the permanence of Jewish
1:37.8	statehood, of a Jewish sovereignty, Jewish nationalism, because when you listen to the rhetoric coming out of Hamas
1:45.2	Hamas does not there's no discussion about it just I know but Tippy when you
1:50.0	listen to the rhetoric of Palestinians that are quote-unquote not Hamas, they seem to be very
1:54.3	sympathetic to what Hamas did on October 7th.
1:56.7	When you look at the polling coming out of the West Bank, West Bank Palestinians, which are
2:00.8	supposed to be the quote-unquote more moderate more civilized
2:04.0	Palestinians they seem incredibly sympathetic to Hamas's worldview so I'm asking you
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