The LAST Biracial Conversation With Molly Daniel, Plus the Gaza Ceasefire

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Van and Rachel react to the news of a new ceasefire proposal being accepted by Hamas before welcoming Molly Daniel to the podcast to provide some perspective on the ongoing biracial discussions. (0:00) Intro (3:57) Tyla on the ‘coloured’ controversy (18:43) Jamie Lee Curtis’ boobs (25:18) Trump names Kennedy Honorees (34:49) Gaza ceasefire proposal (39:22) Gavin Newsom’s trolling (50:33) Kaepernick & Spike Lee ESPN doc (53:17) Whitney Houston’s receipts (58:37) Molly Daniel joins the show (1:46:14) KKK shirt offends racist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:20.8	What is up? Highland is on and Zy Van Lathin Jr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay. You guys are going to love it. We had a 45-minute conversation about biratious. Molly came on. But let me just say, I know what you're already thinking. You're thinking you're going to get more of the same that you've gotten before on the show. The difference is we have a biracial voice on the show. And it's not an interview. It's a conversation, which I think we love most here at higher learning. When it's not an interview, just asking questions, it's a back and forth. And I think, I think it's a good conversation. I just want to say straight up. I think we're still on the, We're exactly where we started. No, no, no, no, no, we're not.
0:38.6	We're not.
0:39.3	We're not.
0:39.5	We're not.
0:39.8	We're not.
0:40.0	We're not.
0:40.0	I want to say this.
0:40.7	I want to apologize because, I really want to apologize because I met what I said, but I'll say this. See what I'm saying. Exactly. No, no, no, no, no.
0:34.2	It's important.
0:34.8	It's important.
0:35.2	Like, I won't, I can't give,
0:38.4	by the way,
0:39.3	the hood in Baton Rouge is not fucking with you right now.
0:59.6	Wait, finish your thought and then we'll go back to that.
1:01.6	Because I want you to finish your apology.
1:04.0	I can't.
1:04.3	So this is why I'll say, man.
1:06.7	I, we talk about it with Molly.
1:09.8	Look, I have to think about people's humanity and experiences
1:13.5	when I talk, right? When I talk, I have to make sure that I speak in sensitivity and love
1:19.3	because that's where I'm coming from, sensitivity and in love with all black people. I have to make
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