Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest. Returning guests, one of my favorite guests. I've done my favorite guests. We've done many, many shows together. We're over 25, I think, but I'm delighted to have her back, Reverta Glass of the True Crime Report. And she's here to report on really the closing of the Larry Ray, Sarah Lawrence sex cult trial,

was a lot more even than the sex cult going on.

Really strange facts.

Even more facts came out that I was surprised to find out about.

But she can talk more about that.

So Roberta Glass, welcome back to the show.

Thank you.

Delighted to be talking to you about this. Amazing trial. Like we were talking to the pre-show, you've sat in these amazing trials. The incredible trials, Maxwell, Nexium and Reneery, and then this Larry Ray, and you've made comparisons to Reneery. I've read comparisons. Other journalists are making comparisons between Rennari and Ray.

But it was kind of a curious trial, right?

Even the, can you comment about what the government did and then the defense did?

In the trial, do you're talking about?

Yeah, everything that leading up kind of ended yesterday or today, right?

Right, we had closing statements.

So are you asking about closing arguments?

Are you asking about the entire trial?

The entire trial.

That's just, that's just cool.

So this is, what I was saying to you before we started,

that this is the quality of trial that I expected at the Maxwell trial.

And instead, I got a very, well, what happened in the Maxwell trial, and this became very obvious,

is Audrey Strauss, who was supposed to try the case, a very experienced prosecutor, dropped out,

or quit in October. And in a couple months later,

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