The lab-leak hypothesis

Explain It to Me

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Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.4 • 7.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Matt is joined by Vox's Libby Nelson and Jerusalem Demsas for a conversation about the rising cost of master’s programs, their usefulness in today’s economy, and their role as federally subsidized job training. Matt, Libby, and Jerusalem, explore their varied educational paths and discuss the effectiveness of student loan forgiveness for higher ed. This week’s white paper illuminates the downstream consequences of raising pollution standards for battery recycling in the United States. Resources: "The Lab-Leak Theory" by David Leonhardt (May 27, New York Times) "The Biological Weapons Convention at a crossroad" by Bonnie Jenkins (Sept. 6, 2017; Brookings) Midnight in Chernobyl: The Untold Story of the World's Greatest Nuclear Disaster by Adam Higginbotham (Simon & Schuster; 2019) "The NPT [Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty]: Learning from a Longtermist Success" by Danny Bressler (May 19, Effective Altruism) White paper: "Strict ID Laws Don't Stop Voters: Evidence from a U.S. Nationwide Panel, 2008–2018," by Enrico Cantoni and Vincent Pons (May 22; The Quarterly Journal of Economics) "After Dramatic Walkout, a New Fight Looms Over Voting Rights in Texas" by Dave Montgomery and Nick Corasaniti (May 31, New York Times) Hosts: Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com Dara Lind (@DLind), Immigration Reporter, ProPublica Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), Senior Correspondent, Vox Credits: Erikk Geannikis, Editor and Producer As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter. The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production. Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:11.4	Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Fox Media Podcast Network. I'm
1:15.5	Matthew Glacias here with Dylan Matthews, publicist, Derek Lindt. We are going to talk today.
1:21.3	We've got a pretty hot white paper, but we also wanted to talk first about the lab leak hypothesis,
1:28.1	which has been in the news a lot lately, has gained more mainstream respectability, up to
1:35.3	and including the president Joe Biden seems to have ordered some kind of renewed inquiry
1:42.7	and emphasis from the American government on the origins of COVID. This is like a big media
1:51.5	criticism story. I think a lot of people, myself included, have had a lot of things to say about
1:57.5	the media's original covering of this and what that means and what we can tell from that. But I was
2:03.9	really want to try to talk about like what is at stake here in in concrete terms. Like why does
2:12.1	this matter other than like I guess I would like to know where COVID came from. It was a big deal.
2:18.7	I'm curious, but like I'm curious about a lot of things like, you know, what's the origin of
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