The Kurious Kase of Karoline Leavitt
Diabolical Lies
Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke
4.8 • 607 Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2025
⏱️ 110 minutes
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Summary
In this conversation…
Six years and five Trump press secretaries ago, The Guardian reported that, thanks to Trump’s ceaseless tweeting, the press secretary position had become “redundant,” an anachronism from a quainter era of politics when presidents didn’t preside like mad kings over their own social media platforms. So what should we make of Karoline Leavitt and the role she’s performing in this political theater?
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Diabolical Lies is 100% listener-supported culture and politics podcast designed to make you smarter, saner, and infinitely more unbearable at your next family gathering. 33% of our revenue is redistributed to organizations actively working to build a better world for everyone—one in which people like Karoline Leavitt are relegated to their rightful position in society making conspiracy theory YouTube videos about the Denver airport.
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode of Diabolical Lies was brought to you by the K Jewelers line of First Communion Jewelry, |
| 0:06.4 | the campaign finance regulator who wants to know why Caroline stopped texting her back, |
| 0:11.2 | bare minerals warmth, Casey Means as astrologer, Anne Taylor Loft's annual factory blowout sale, |
| 0:17.3 | and the selfie stick manufacturer being kept in business solely by the new media section |
| 0:21.1 | of the White House press briefing room. |
| 0:24.3 | Oh my God, bare minerals catching astray. |
| 0:28.2 | We have a really deep bench of sponsors today for this episode. |
| 0:33.3 | Yes, today we are talking about White House press secretary Caroline Levitt and what her appointment, her style, and her online presence tells us. |
| 0:44.3 | Because I think for me, the capitalism episode felt like a real capstone. |
| 0:49.2 | Capstone with a K. |
| 0:50.6 | It really stretched my intellectual limits. |
| 0:53.4 | It left my brain feeling pretty wrung out from trying |
| 0:56.6 | to capture something so large and all-encompassing, and then spending an hour explaining all the |
| 1:01.4 | heinous crimes of the CIA felt extremely dark. And then your Who Wants Kids episode that we did next |
| 1:07.3 | made me confront some very uncomfortable and challenging contradictions |
| 1:11.6 | in my own belief system. So for today's episode, I was like, you know what I haven't done |
| 1:17.3 | in a while? A bad faith shit-talking hit piece. So that's what I have for you today. |
| 1:23.9 | Going back to our roots. I asked myself, who am I so consumed with hate for that I could spend |
| 1:30.8 | 40 hours ingesting every meaningless detail about their life and transforming it into a |
| 1:36.2 | withering psychoanalysis, like who is so underqualified and lies with such pathological confidence |
| 1:42.2 | that it would be fun to study how and why they've gotten |
| 1:45.6 | where they are. And so obviously there was no choice but Caroline Levitt, the White House Press |
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