The Kouri Richins Verdict — What the Conviction Answered and What It Didn't
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Tony Brueski
4.2 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 20 March 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Kouri Richins was convicted of murdering her husband Eric with fentanyl and is heading to prison for life. It is one of the most documented, most debated poisoning cases in recent true crime history — and the conviction closes the legal chapter while leaving the human one wide open. In this listener Q&A, Tony Brueski and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke take on the post-verdict fallout. The immunity deals that let key witnesses walk free. The defense's misconduct claims that didn't move the jury. The grief book written and sold to families while Kouri allegedly concealed what she had done. The four years of sustained deception, and what it means that it ultimately wasn't enough. Robin applies the behavioral framework he built during a career recruiting spies and analyzing dangerous personalities to ask the question nobody wants to answer plainly: does Kouri Richins believe she did anything wrong? And what does the answer to that question tell us about who she actually is? A conviction ends a trial. It doesn't end the story.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey. |
| 0:08.6 | Corey Richens is convicted. |
| 0:11.0 | The jury came back and now she's heading to prison for killing Eric. |
| 0:14.7 | The trial is over, but the questions are not, as we're learning in our comments section. |
| 0:39.4 | And I don't blame you. We got a lot of questions, too. And that's what we're going to do today on the program. We're going to go through Q&A live with you guys. I got some that I grab from your comments. So we're going to hit those. But if you have comments about this case, thoughts you want to share, drop them in live, and we will try to get to them as we work through this. |
| 0:40.7 | We're going to talk today about the case here of Corey Richens. |
| 0:45.4 | We're going to talk the latest on Nancy Guthrie. |
| 0:47.5 | And we're also going to talk about the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case as well. |
| 0:51.8 | So lots to get through. |
| 0:53.1 | Robin Drake, retired FBI special agents, former chief of |
| 0:55.8 | the counterintelligence behavioral analysis program with us as always. Welcome, Robin. His book is out |
| 1:01.2 | this week. It's not all about me. It's big book week launch. And wherever you get, |
| 1:07.0 | wherever you get your books, Amazon, whatever it is, be sure to go and put an order down. |
| 1:12.8 | And just tell a million of your friends since my daughter's wedding is May, so. |
| 1:16.7 | Yes, tell your friend. It makes a great wedding gift, you know, right there. |
| 1:23.1 | Oh, the stories I could tell about that, yes. Just give that to everyone. Yeah. |
| 1:27.4 | But it's a great book. So please do check it. All of his books are wonderful. If you like Robin, if you listen regularly, and you can't get enough Robin in your life, there's plenty more books to get through. I mean, honestly, I mean, size, I'm listening to this one for a second time right now. Oh, and very much... |
| 1:44.5 | You know, I never really equated the things I wrote years and years ago or even not too |
| 1:49.5 | far ago because I worked in the world of counterintelligence behavioral analysis. |
| 1:54.0 | But when we're looking at all... |
| 1:55.3 | I'll throw it out the first time of the day. |
| 1:56.6 | When you're looking at all the nutters in the world, oh, my God, all of this is completely |
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