Not since the 1960s, music, radio, podcasts.

Not since the 1960s and the debates about abolishing the death penalty or legalising abortion.

Have we had a discussion about shifting the boundaries between life and death in the way we are now

when it comes to assisted dying,

or what its critics call assisted suicide.

If the law is changed in Westminster,

to allow for assisted dying,

a decision by someone who's given less than six months to live,

to take their own life given a cocktail of drugs,

one name will forever be associated with that.

That name is Kim Ledbeter, a backbench Labour MP, the guest this week here on political thinking.

In November, MPs voted in favour of the principle of assisted dying, but now the detail is being hammered out in a committee of MPs, some who support it, some who oppose it.

And until all of this, Kim Ledbetter was known to most simply as the sister of the MP who was

murdered, of Joe Cox, murdered eight years ago,

the sister who entered Parliament for the same constituency after standing in a by-election.

Kim Ledbita, welcome to political thinking.

Hello.

We're going to talk about the issue. We're going to talk, obviously, about Joe as well.

But you must now feel that you're in the sort of parliamentary trenches now debating assisted down.

When many people listening might have assumed that it was all over, that the big vote had happened and there was nothing more to do.

Yeah, I mean, to be honest, Nick, I feel like I've been in the parliamentary trenches for three and a half years since I got elected.

But absolutely, we're entering the next really important stage of scrutiny of this really important bill.

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