The Kill Chain: Defending America in the Future of High-Tech Warfare | Chris Brose

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Business, Government

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2020

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 159 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Chris Brose, fmr. Staff Director of the Senate Armed Services Committee, a fmr. speechwriter to two Secretaries of State, and the current Head of Strategy at Anduril Industries, a defense product company working at the bleeding edge of innovation in defense strategy, procurement, and development.

This is a conversation about the story that the American public tells itself about the strength and primacy of American military power and how that story has increasingly fallen out of step with the reality of how our military operates, the technologies it has at its disposal, and the threat that countries like Russia and China pose to America's battle-networks, systems, and platforms. How do we navigate these challenges while still trying to maintain peace and security both at home and abroad? How is the nature of warfare changing, and how can America's military evolve to meet the challenge posed by new systems of automated warfare, next-generation weaponry, and shorter development cycles? And as we work to meet these challenges, how do we guard against the weakening of our civil and political institutions in an effort to overcome them? These are just a few of the questions that Chris and Demetri tackle in the first part of today's conversation.

In the overtime, the two discuss some of the initiatives and projects that Chris is most excited about at Anduril, and how the company is revolutionizing the way we think about the relationship between commercial technologies and military technologies, battle networks and platforms, as well as the overall budgetary procurement and acquisition process.

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Episode Recorded on 10/13/2020

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0:00.0	Today's episode of Hidden Forces is made possible by listeners like you.
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0:21.5	Each review helps more people find the show and join our amazing community.
0:26.8	And with that, please enjoy this week's episode. And the What's up everybody? My guest on this episode of Hidden Forces is Chris Broze.
0:54.8	Chris has, well, all of our guests have interesting and impressive backgrounds, but
1:01.6	there's something about the choices and responsibilities that Chris has made
1:06.6	and taken on in his career that I think are reflective of someone who is motivated by something greater than himself.
1:14.8	And that comes across pretty convincingly, not only in our conversation today, but also
1:19.7	in reading Chris's book, The Kill Chain, and in conversations that I've heard with other members of his company,
1:25.6	including the company's founder, Palmer Lucky, who some of you may know as the creator of the
1:30.7	Oculus Rift. And we talk about the company, Chris's head of strategy at Andorill, and we discuss some
1:36.1	of the initiatives and projects that he's most excited about and how Andoril, which is a defense
1:41.7	product company, is part of what is hopefully a revolution.
1:45.9	And not only the way we think about the relationship between commercial technologies and
1:50.3	military technologies, but also battle networks versus platforms and the and military is not only dysfunctional in terms of waste, the type of waste that we're all familiar with,
2:05.8	but also in terms of priorities.
2:08.0	And that's really what the first part of our conversation today is about.
2:11.0	It's a conversation about the story that the American public tells itself,
2:16.8	that we tell ourselves about the strength and primacy of American military power and how that story has increasingly fallen out of step
2:26.0	with the underlying reality of how our military operates, the technologies it has at
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