It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn.

In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics,

the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history.

So if you're trying to make sense at the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on the IHeart

Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on IHeartRadio.

The Carol Markowitz show now airs Wednesdays and Fridays, so you can get this non-political

podcast, the Carol Markowitz Show on Wednesday and Friday, and then normally the political

podcast I co-host with Mary Catherine Hamm every Tuesday and Thursday. You only don't

get me on Mondays. I watch out for cultural stories specifically, and the big one this week is of a

porn star named Lily Phillips. Lily is a British woman who does OnlyFans, which if you don't

know what that is, it's basically a pornographic

site, though not always, where people pay to get to know the subject of their porn a little more

than they would just watching, say, a video. Lily recently had sex with 101 men in one sitting and participated in a documentary titled,

I Slept with a Hundred Men in One Day.

In that documentary, she breaks down crying after the event and says that it made her feel robotic,

and she doesn't even remember the faces of any of the men.

A lot of the online conversation focuses on who is in the wrong. Is it Lily? Is it the men? Is it her mom who is reportedly her finance manager?

I like what Ben Shapiro said about it, although I'm actually pretty sure I'm more liberal than him on stuff like prostitution or porn.

I don't think it should be illegal, for example.

But he said, our liberal society has lost the language to explain why it's morally wrong for Lily Phillips to have sex with 101 men in a day on camera.

Consent, it turns out, is not the only important value. The human soul is

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