The Journalist and the Firefighter
Question Everything
Brian Reed
4.6 • 707 Ratings
🗓️ 26 September 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
How one of the most accomplished reporters of our time, Barton Gellman, lost his confidence in journalism.
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| 0:00.0 | Before the last presidential election in 2020, a reporter wrote a story that predicted the future. |
| 0:05.7 | I remember reading it. It was one of those pieces of journalism. I'll never forget. |
| 0:09.3 | Though it's hard to put myself back into that moment in time, into that headspace. |
| 0:13.4 | When the frightening things the reporter was saying were about to happen, hadn't happened yet. |
| 0:17.9 | And I still had to wonder, is this guy right? |
| 0:21.5 | Will the things his story is predicting become true? |
| 0:24.9 | But he was. |
| 0:26.4 | And they did. |
| 0:29.3 | The reporter's name was Barton Gelman. |
| 0:31.7 | In his story for the Atlantic, |
| 0:33.6 | he laid out ahead of time the specific tactics |
| 0:35.8 | then-President Donald Trump and his allies |
| 0:37.9 | would use to attempt to stay in power, regardless of the outcome of the election. |
| 0:42.0 | The story was called the election that could break America. |
| 0:45.3 | Barton Gellman predicted that Trump would never concede defeat. |
| 0:48.9 | He identified January 6, 2021 specifically, as a date that could see chaos. |
| 0:56.2 | He reported ahead of time that there would likely be immense pressure on Vice President Mike Pence to not certify the electoral vote. |
| 1:02.3 | Harton wrote all this in September 2020, a full month and a half before Election Day, before |
| 1:08.6 | Trump stepped out on that election night at the White House |
| 1:11.3 | and delivered a speech, insisting the election had been stolen from him. |
| 1:15.8 | All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen. |
| 1:21.0 | We will stop the steel. |
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