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The Trump effect is a real thing and it's it's almost as if he's

he's already assumed the presidency and

it's it's noticeable in Mexico, the migrant camps.

There are people in the migrant camps making decisions because they are convinced that Trump's

policy is real and it's coming, and they'd be better off making a decision on what they're going

to do now. Todd Benzman has been reporting from the border for years now. He's with the Center for

Immigration Studies, wrote a piece for the Daily Mail. Let's get Todd on to talk about what

he's seen at these Mexican migrant camps.

Todd, how are you again?

I'm doing great.

Thank you for having me on.

I appreciate it.

So you've been interviewing some of the migrants, and what are they telling you?

Right.

I'm fresh back from Mexico City.

I went there because there are thousands.

Nobody knows how many, but there are definitely thousands in informal encampments all over the city.

It's a gigantic city, of course.

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