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It's the same as the radio show. I want to get right into it. We're happy to have Riley Games come on.

Riley Games is the well-known college swimmer.

She has made quite a name for herself, defending women's rights, defending the rights of college

and high school athletes, women against all the transgender athletes who've been invading the women's spaces,

literally in their locker rooms and also from a competition standpoint. I guess a big moment was in

2022. She was swimming for the University of Kentucky in an NCAA championship

race tied for fifth place with Leah Thomas, who is a transgender swimmer. She was a male

swimming as a female. And they tied for fifth and gains didn't like sharing the locker room with Leah Thomas and sharing a prize with her as well.

And she has been quite an advocate about protecting women in the locker room and protecting the integrity of their competitions in all sports and their safety.

So let's get Riley Gaines on.

Riley, welcome.

How are you?

I am doing fantastic, John.

Thank you for having me on.

I obviously been following you for the last couple of years.

And then a couple of years ago, one of my sons went to a school up in San

Francisco where you were appearing and there was a huge ruckus going on at the university

where you were appearing. And I became quite aware of the kind of reaction that you provoke in

people. I mean, to most people, it's a pretty obvious situation why you shouldn't have biological men who are fully intact with their original parts, going into a female locker room or competing with females.

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