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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Jews Have the Last Laugh | Interview: Barry Strauss

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Jonah Goldberg invites Barry Strauss, author of Jews vs. Rome: Two Centuries of Rebellion Against the World’s Mightiest Empire, to discuss the clashes between these two ancient worlds, focusing on key events like the Siege of Masada and the Bar Kokhba revolt. Discover how these uprisings not only challenged Roman authority but also shaped the cultural and political landscape of current events. Show Notes:—Read Strauss’ other books The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—click here. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

0:18.0

Can you digger?

0:27.4

Greetings your listeners.

0:28.6

This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast.

0:31.3

Brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media.

0:34.6

Today is a special episode because we have technically a returning guest on this

0:40.9

podcast, but one that I have not talked to on this podcast. I've talked to in real life. I,

0:45.3

in fact, he lent me his office briefly back when he was at Cornell before a speech, and it looked

0:51.6

exactly like you would like a scholar of classical Rome

0:56.5

office to look like with all sorts of weird doodads and scrolls and all of that kind of

1:02.1

thing. It was very cool. Barry Strauss is an emeritus professor at Cornell. He is currently a senior

1:07.7

fellow at the Hoover Institution. He has written a pile of books.

1:12.1

We'll put links in the show notes.

1:14.1

But his latest, which is here to talk about, is Jews versus Rome.

1:18.4

And I like that the Jews get top billing.

1:20.6

Two centuries of rebellion against the world's mightiest empire.

1:26.1

Barry Strauss, welcome back to the remnant. Thank you, Jonah. It's great to be here.

1:31.2

As per tradition, listeners know it's coming, and I warned you as well. First question out of the box.

1:37.1

What's your book about? Well, my book is about, as the title says, Jews versus Rome,

1:41.7

two centuries of rebellion against the world's mightiest empire.

1:45.6

I think that many, if not most of our listeners will have heard of Masada, important historical

1:51.1

side and a very powerful symbol.

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