Okay, here we are with the special New Year's Day edition of Over the Horizon with Jim Cutler.

Welcome to the show, Jim.

Thank you very much, Sean.

Always good to be here and happy New Year to everybody out there.

And this is a very, very hopeful day for all of us.

Yeah, I feel like we just put it worst year ever behind us and the best is yet to come. Right now, I'm in a hotel room and so I'm on vacation.

You're on your sailboat out in the Atlantic Ocean.

Actually, here in sunny Florida.

Oh, nice, nice.

So what I want to discuss with you is what's where are we at as far as Trump and the White

Hats and his team, what's going on with the inner circle, you know, some of the key players like

Lynn Wood, Sydney Powell, Michael Flynn, Patrick Byrne, Rudy Giuliani, Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows,

people like that. So I want to talk to you about where we are, what's going to happen

on the sixth, okay? You know, is Mike Pence going to come through? I heard an announcement.

Did you hear this announcement that he said he's not looking to do politics long term,

Michael Pence? Yes, he's out Yes, he's out of politics.

So I think, you know, we're going to be seeing that's a tell.

And if he decides to not continue to pursue the vice president's position, then this is a you

here to hear it here first moment. I mean, not our show,

but what he just said. Not only that, but it shows he doesn't have the ambition to become

president in 2024, which would be a logical ambition for him. Right. That's right.

So how did you take that?

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