This is On the Media's midweek podcast. I'm Michael Onger. Back in 2023, I traveled out to Montana

with Anna Sale, the host of Death, Sex, and Money, to interview Tasha Adams.

She's the ex-wife of Stuart Rhodes, the founder of the Oathkeepers, the far-right militia group.

Stewart was convicted of seditious conspiracy

for his role in the January 6th insurrection.

Prosecutors argued that members of the oathkeepers

used force to block the results of the election.

He was sentenced to 18 years in prison.

Anna and I called Tasha back

just a few days before Trump's inauguration. On the episode

that death, sex and money called the chest-clenching fear of my ex-husband's January 6th commutation,

Tasha told us how after Trump won, she felt totally shut down. I just couldn't even look at it.

Got up in the morning, took one glance at the results before I got up and left for work, saw what happened, and didn't even think about it again.

And I just, I must have had hundreds of messages and media reaching out. And, you know,

and I did a couple interviews, but I just didn't have the heart for it. I don't know

how else to describe it. You know, I felt so on fire to do as many interviews as I could possibly do

leading up to Stewart's arrest and conviction, you know, just to get that message out, you know,

desperately. Like, I needed to keep the spotlight on Stewart,

and I needed people to understand how serious it was for him to be convicted. But then,

but after this election, you know, I just, I just felt like I just couldn't move. I mean,

it was just really hard to even function. You know, I never really

seriously believed Stewart would get out. You know, I was afraid of it, and it loomed, but I didn't

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