'The Interview': Can Whitney Wolfe Herd Make Us Love Dating Apps Again?

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🗓️ 10 May 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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The Bumble CEO has returned to run the struggling company she founded, and says she has a plan for getting Gen Z back. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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0:00.0	Hi, everyone, it's Lulu.
0:02.2	Before we get into today's episode, I want to let you know about something exciting we have coming up here at The interview.
0:07.8	It's our first ever live show.
0:10.0	It'll be at the Tribeca Festival in New York City on Thursday, June 12th.
0:13.8	I'll be talking with actor Sandra O.
0:16.1	You might know her from Grey's Anatomy or Killing Eve.
0:19.1	I'm really looking forward to it.
0:20.8	Tickets are on sale now
0:21.9	at Tribecafestival.com slash the interview. Hope you can come. From the New York Times,
0:32.3	this is the interview. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. And this week, I'm interviewing Whitney Wolf Hurd, the founder and CEO of the dating app Bumble.
0:41.5	Now, when I started dating, the apps weren't an option.
0:44.4	I met my husband, the good old-fashioned way, through his ex-girlfriend.
0:48.3	But I wanted to talk to Wolf Hurd because her story really maps onto our culture's fraught relationship with technology and female business leaders.
0:57.5	In 2012, Wolf Hurd was just out of college when she co-founded Tinder,
1:02.0	the dating app that was squarely aimed at her generation of millennials.
1:06.6	Tinder gamified finding love, introducing that addictive swipe feature.
1:11.7	But Wolford went on to have a messy breakup with Tinder. In 2014, she left the company and sued
1:16.4	them, alleging that she'd experienced sexual harassment and discrimination from one of her co-founders
1:21.5	with whom she'd also had a relationship. The company denied responsibility, and they settled
1:25.9	the case. Soon after, though, at only age 25, she started Bumble,
1:31.2	which built itself as this safe space for women to find love,
1:35.3	where they made the first move.
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