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Many of us have known a couple or two that we admire because they stayed

together a long time. They loved each other well. The couple that comes to mind

immediately beyond family because we have some really great milestone

couples in our family are Martha and Jim. They were so loving toward each

other. He treated her like royalty. She served him like he was the only person in

her world. They had their moments. They had a love language of humor and and care

for other people. They were just really really inspirational. And again I'm sure

you have somebody that comes to mind as well. I'm John Fuller along with Dr.

Greg Smolley and his wife Aaron and I wonder you know you two have spent a lot

of time studying marriage. This is your heart and your ministry is marriage. What

are some words of wisdom or some insights or some people that you've admired?

Yeah. A couple of things come to mind. I remember one time I couldn't even tell

you Aaron who the couple was. Maybe you remember. But I noticed when when we

were praying at some point they instantly reach for each other's hand. And so

instead of praying I was just staring at them holding hands and just kind of

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