Heard about Magpie, the vegan pie truck that needed a bit of help from Go Daddy.

One day the owners are like, this business hasn't reached this potential.

And the other one goes, we need a bigger piece of the pie.

And then it hits her.

We need Go Daddy. Look, we can get a domain name and create an online store

so we can sell to more customers. Now they've gone from serving a couple of pies to

flogging nationwide. And now everyone's like, vegan pies are the new thing around here.

Wait, no meat!

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Max Sweetie. I'm

Max Sweetie. I'm joined today by Matt Rao of Headwaters Volatility

solutions, but today we're not exactly talking about that where you're kind of

putting your credit hat back on throwing back to the old days for you.

Yeah I am and I was spurred on by a comment that I read from Rao about defaults

and increase in defaults and it really knocked me out of my chair to you know want to raise my hand and

say I have something to say here because this is where the intersection of volatility, credit and equity come together and it's something I'm passionate about and I might be one of 10 people that really am, but you know that's that's what I'd like to talk about today.

Well, wonderful. Yeah, I always love when this happens because we do have such a mix of an audience here.

Some people are, you know, retail investors, students trying to learn, but we also have people

like yourself, professionals who keep up with our

content and it's always very inspiring when a piece sort of touches a nerve with both groups

of people when the you when the up and coming people, the learners are like,

I'm really learning a lot from this and at the same time you have a professional like yourself

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