Summary
Fact vs. propaganda...
Vic, Gabriel and Vitaliy discuss the peace talks in Turkey, the aftermath of the bombing in Mariupol, and why every bit of info coming out of the conflict needs to be treated with scepticism. The White House have expressed concerns that Russia might use chemical weapons to speed up the invasion of Ukraine. But where does their intelligence come from? Chemical weapons expert, Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, weighs up the evidence... And we catch up with Anna, who made it out of Kharkiv with her family. This episode of Ukrainecast was made by Estelle Doyle with Alix Pickles, Ben Cooper and Michele Theil. The studio director is Emma Crowe. The assistant editor is Sam Bonham.
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| 0:04.8 | Hello, it's 15 days since Russian forces invaded Ukraine. |
| 0:09.2 | In fact, it's two weeks today. |
| 0:10.8 | Two weeks today. |
| 0:11.9 | And today, the foreign ministers of Russian Ukraine met in Turkey |
| 0:15.8 | on the face of it. |
| 0:17.0 | A bit of hope? |
| 0:18.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:19.0 | But I saw a clip from Russia's foreign ministers |
| 0:21.0 | to Sergei Lavrov speaking after those talks. |
| 0:25.8 | As to your question about whether we intend |
| 0:28.2 | on attacking other countries, well, then, that is not our intent. |
| 0:32.8 | We are not attacking Ukraine. |
| 0:34.8 | We are responding to a direct threat to the Russian Federation. |
| 0:41.3 | And that just blew my mind, Vic, because on the one hand, |
| 0:44.4 | he's coming out with this reassuring statement, |
| 0:46.2 | hey, we're not going to attack anyone else. |
| 0:48.3 | And then he goes, in fact, we haven't attacked Ukraine. |
| 0:50.5 | So why is he having peace talks? |
| 0:52.0 | Well, but he has attacked Ukraine. |
| 0:54.7 | Yes, I know. |
| 0:55.4 | So it is the previous statement, also, |
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