Welcome listeners to episode 102 of Know Your Enemy. I'm Sam Adler Bell and I'm not here with my great friend Matthew Sitman because he's off in Germany delivering lectures to students about well who knows

Luckily Matt was here when we recorded the interview

I'm about to share with you, which features a beloved returning

guest and know your enemy patron saint, Rick Perlstein. Most of you will be familiar with Rick's extraordinary books on the history of conservatism,

including The Invisible Bridge, Nixon Land, and Reagan Land.

Rick joins us for the second in our ongoing series on the 2024 election.

And in this episode we end up talking a great deal about how elite journalism continues

to flail in its effort to reckon with Trump and the far right.

We also hear a sneak peek about Rick's new book, as well as many other fascinating tidbits

from Rick's encyclopedic knowledge of conservative history.

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Dissent magazine.

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thank our intrepid producer Jesse Brenneman and Will Epstein who does the music for the podcast.

With all of that said, here is our interview with journalist and historian and great friend of ours Rick Perlstein.

Enjoy. All right. Let's get to it.

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