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Hello and welcome to your Dead To Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously.

My name is Greg Jenner, I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster,

and today we are jumping back to the Bronze Age and sailing down the Indus River

to learn all about the archaeology of toilets, terracotta, ornaments and even unicorns.

Yes, it's the Indus Civilization and to help us excavate this buried history,

you have two very special guests. In history, slash archaeology corner, she's a postdoctoral fellow

at University of Cambridge Museums and postdoctoral research associate at Pembroke College,

Cambridge. A research includes the archaeology of the Indus Civilization of South Asia as well as

Empire and Race and Museum Collections and she's a founding member of the European Society of Black

and Allied Archaeologists, it's Dr. Danica Parik. Welcome Danica. Hello, thank you for having me, Greg,

I'm excited to dig in. Oh, and archaeology fun, well done. Congratulations, secret handshake for you.

And in comedy corner, he's a stand up comedian writer and podcast regular. You might have seen

his stand up special dots on HBO Max or Herdemon Radio 4 or scene on mock the week or have

gone used for you or live at the Apollo or Mash Report. He's very busy and you'll definitely

remember him from our Julius Caesar episode. It's Ahia Shah, welcome Ahia. Hello, Greg, and as I

learnt on the previous appearance, it's actually it's actually Julius Kaiser, so here's the historian now,

hey, hey, I'll get my coat. There's been a coup. Today we're going way back into the ancient past,

so way beyond Julius Caesar to explore a topic with much lower name recognition. So what do you know

about the Indus Civilization are here? So I think that Indus is like where the word Hindu

like comes from, etymologically, I think that that's the thing. I imagine that this is a civilization

like given where the Indus is like in Northwest, what is now like Northwest India and Pakistan,

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