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The Daily Stoic

The Incredible Stoicism of James Stockdale: Prisoner At War

The Daily Stoic

Daily Stoic | Wondery

Education, Daily Stoic, Society & Culture, Stoic, Stoicism, Self-improvement, Business, Stoic Philosophy, Philosophy, Ryan Holiday

4.64.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2021

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

“On September 9, 1965, Admiral James Stockdale’s A-4 Skyhawk jet was shot down in Vietnam. He was taken prisoner by the North Vietnamese and spent the next seven years being tortured and subjected to unimaginable loneliness and terror. Fortunately, three years earlier, he was recommended a book. That book, he says, saved his life.” Find out how Stoicism helped James Stockdale face unimaginable adversity, on today’s podcast.

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Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic. Each weekday we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoic, something that can help you live up to those four Stoic virtues of courage, justice, wisdom and temperance.

0:26.0

And here on the weekend we take a deeper dive into those same topics. We interview Stoic philosophers, we reflect, we prepare.

0:36.0

We think deeply about the challenging issues of our time. And we work through this philosophy in a way that's more possible here when we're not Russian to worker to get the kids to school.

0:49.0

And we have the time to think, to go for a walk, to sit with our journals and to prepare for what the future will bring.

0:58.0

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1:11.0

At McDonald's, that innovative spirit let him to do something truly extraordinary. Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, host of Wondery Show Business Movers. We tell the true stories of the business leaders who risked it all, the critical moments that defined their journey and the ideas that transformed the way we live our lives.

1:27.0

In our latest series, George Cohan gives up his career as a Chicago attorney to open the first McDonald's fast food restaurant in Canada. But as George moves up the McDonald's corporate ladder, a chance meeting with members of the Russian Olympic Committee gives George an opportunity to shake up the status quo once again.

1:45.0

In the midst of the Cold War, George sets out to open the first McDonald's behind the Iron Curtain. Find out how, follow business movers wherever you get your podcasts, and you can listen ad-free on Amazon Music or the Wondry app.

1:58.0

What if you were trafficked into a cult over shot nine times or fell in love with a vampire or went into a minor surgery and woke up one week later, paralyzed? What would you do?

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I'm Whit Missaldine, the creator of this is actually happening, a podcast from Wondry that brings you extraordinary true stories of life-changing events told by the people who lived them.

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2:36.0

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2:55.0

Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another weekend episode of The Daily Stood Podcast. Here we are. And I wanted to talk today about someone who I got to mention briefly in the new book, Lives of the Stoics, but we decided in that book to sort of cut off at Marcus Aurelius.

3:21.0

First up, there's a perfectness of starting with Zeno ending with Marcus Realeus. You got Zeta A, so to speak, but just decided to profile the ancient Stoics in that book.

3:34.0

Were there Stoics after Marcus Reus? Absolutely. Are there even modern recent-day Stoics? Yes. The most impressive and awe-inspiring is probably Admiral James Stockdale. I've been lucky enough to speak at the Stockdale Center at the US Naval Academy a few times. I'm actually a fellow there at the Stockdale Center.

3:55.0

But I didn't get to profile Stockdale the way I wanted to in the book. I mentioned briefly in the Epictetus chapter in a few other places, but what I wanted to do today was give you a glimpse into the life and philosophy of the great James Stockdale.

4:11.0

What we could learn from him, I call him in today's episode, not a prisoner of war, although he famously was a POW in the Vietnam War, but a prisoner at war. He was at war against fate, at war against adversity, at war against his own limitations, at war against doubt and fear, at war against pain and despair.

4:32.0

And he was largely victorious in those battles and I think that makes him a particularly awe-inspiring figure. And so here we are today looking at the incredible Stoicism of the great James Stockdale.

4:46.0

On September 9th, 1965, James Stockdale's A4 Skyhawk was shot down over Vietnam. He was taken prisoner by the North Vietnamese and spent the next seven years being tortured and subjected to unimaginable loneliness and terror.

5:06.0

But fortunately, three years earlier, he was recommended a book, that book, he says, saved his life.

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