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A New History of Old Texas

The Impossible Peace

A New History of Old Texas

Brandon Seale

Arts, Cabeza De Vaca, The Alamo, Battle Of Medina, San Antonio Missions, Texas, Mexico, Gutierrez-magee, Education, Comanches, Apaches, Society & Culture, San Antonio, Courses, Philosophy, History

2.4686 Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Episode 3 of Brandon Seale's podcast (in collaboration with Art Martínez de Vara) on the life and times of José Francisco Ruíz. If there was anything more improbable in Texas history than the Lipan-Comanche alliance orchestrated by José Francisco Ruíz in 1816, it was the peace brokered WITH the Lipanes and Comanches on behalf of the newly-independent Mexican empire in 1822. It would culminate in one of the most memorable scenes in Texas history, the journey of Ruíz and a handful of Lipan and...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Man for Texas.

0:05.8

Episode 3, The Impossible Peace.

0:08.7

I'm Brandon Seal.

0:10.5

A European visitor to Mexico City in the early 19th century described it as the city of palaces,

0:18.7

a nod both to its role as the old Aztec capital, but also to

0:22.4

its spectacular concentration of wealth. One third of the wealth of all of New Spain, known formally

0:29.2

after 1822 as Mexico, was concentrated in this great cosmopolitan city. Then as now, the exact

0:36.2

limits of Mexico City were a bit fuzzy, but something like a million

0:39.3

people, a fifth of the new country, considered Mexico City the base of their daily lives.

0:45.8

Filipinos, Africans, and of course Spaniards and indigenous mingled in a near perfect rainbow of melanin,

0:52.0

speaking more languages than anyone even bothered to count.

0:55.8

It's tempting to imagine that a handful of dudes from 1820s, Texas, which had one 278th, the

1:02.8

wealth of Mexico City, and counted maybe 4,000 Tejanos and maybe 40,000 Indians as its total

1:08.3

population, it's tempting to imagine that these dudes would have been overwhelmed by the great metropolis? It's tempting to imagine that these dudes would have

1:11.6

been overwhelmed by the great metropolis. It's tempting to imagine that they were even awed by it.

1:17.8

But there's nothing in the records of Jose Francisco Ruiz's only ever trip to Mexico City

1:22.2

to suggest that it left any kind of impression on these free men of the plains. Ruiz was joined in Mexico by

1:29.0

at least two Lipon Apache captains. Quelgas de Castro and Yolka, Pocaropa, represented a significant

1:35.5

portion of the peoples that the Spanish grouped together as Lipon Apaches. Quelgas and Poceropa

1:41.2

represented the two particular groups of Lipanus that had most thoroughly integrated their lifeways with Tejanos.

1:47.4

After some convincing by Ruiz in April of 1822, they had agreed to make the almost 1,000-mile journey to Mexico City, alongside their on-again-off-again rivals for the Texas plains, the Comanches, in order to make peace with the newly proclaimed Mexican

2:01.7

empire. After two months of waiting for their Comanche frenemies, the Lipane has decided to go on

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