What up, what up, everybody. Welcome to the Michael Still Podcasts, Michael Steel. What

a hell of a week we've had. And to help us get into all of the discussion around what's

happening and what it all means is none of the Rick Wilson long time Republican political

strategist infamous negative ad maker and commentator. He's got a new book out for running

against the devil, applied to save America from Trump and Democrats from themselves. I just

got the book. I'm calling through it now. You got to get it. It is a must read. Since 2015,

he's been a leading conservative critic of Donald Trump along with a few others out there.

His regular column with the Daily Beast is a hilarious and spot on must read in the

political community. He's a frequent desk on real time with Bill Marr, which he just got back

from, which again, check it out. It's good TV. He's also co-founder of the Lincoln Project. Rick,

welcome back to the podcast. Baby and congrats on the book. Thank you, brother. I really appreciate

that. It's doing really well. We're on the best summer list for the second weekend of

the row. That is a good accomplishment in this day and age, apparently. Thank you for

your kind wishes on it. Look, you did it the legitimate way. You didn't have the R&C by

10,000 copies of your book. If they want to, I'm certainly happy to have them do that.

I did it the old fashioned way. I went out and wrote something. I think people will find

valuable in this crazy political moment. There's the response with both the reviews and

the reviews from those behind the book. It's been tremendous, deeply honored by the whole

thing. Before we get into the trial and the shit show that turned out to be, walk us through

the book. Tell us what it is like to actually run against the devil. Well, the book is outlined

in basically two big sections. The first part is to give Democrats a perspective on what

happens if they screw this up and to show them how high the stakes are and how dangerous

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