I think of a South American or Chilean activist who I interview in the book named Juan Pablo

Orego, and he makes the case that I think is worth repeating that in order to inspire people

to do these kinds of things, to take on this incredibly difficult work, we have to return

to an appreciation of the aesthetic beauty of the natural world.

We have to look to the kind of incredible reverence that somebody like John Muir had for a place

like Yosemite and kind of mourn with John Muir the loss of Yosemite's twin, which was Hetch Hetchy Valley, buried behind

O'Shaughnessy Dam. Glenn Canyon, the namesake of that dam on the Colorado,

Glenn Canyon was, as I write in the book, one of the most beautiful places, perhaps on the entire

continent, and it was buried hastily behind

a dam in the early 60s. In order to foster the belief that we can return to some semblance of

wholeness, we have to start with a premise that a beautiful thing is worth saving.

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Here's your host, Karina Belizzi.

Hello, fellow do-goaters and friends. I'm your host, Karina Belizzi. I've shared my views on how we

manage our open spaces and the problem of an over-extractive view on our natural world before

on this show. So it will come as no surprise to you that we're going to dive deep into another

system that we need to work to dismantle with today's episode. We are going to talk about dams

as we get to know Stephen Hawley. Stephen is a writer and filmmaker from Hood River, Oregon,

my home state. He's the writer and co-producer of an award-winning documentary called

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