In the state of being petrified, I literally heard, and it was a woman's voice, one word whispered in my ear, and it was pray.

But it wasn't pray like a command.

It was pray.

Like, it's no big deal. Just pray.

This is touched by heaven. Everyday encounters with God. Those moments when heaven and earth

collide. And we see God. Welcome. This is so interesting because some of us, including me,

have been there. This is episode 249.

I'm your host, Tramper Jack.

We have Julie.

She's the one who had this horrifying night when she ran from New Age right into the arms of Jesus.

Like I say, I've been there.

I was there.

I was there for years.

Let's see.

How do I fit, let's see, numerologists and the psychics and Transcendental

Meditation and what else was I doing? Well, throw a little horoscope action in there. And somehow,

yeah, I can squeeze that somehow into Christianity because Christianity doesn't have all the

answers. So there has to be, you got to be able to, you know, some of that's got to be wrong.

So I got to fit this in. So you kind of, you know, do this mind-bending thing to make, to make that all work, like Julie did until this one horrifying night.

Yeah, not something I would have chosen, that's for sure.

Julie lives in Vermont, grew up Catholic, Catholic High School, Catholic College, goes out into the world,

just not getting all the answers she wants.

...