Hello. I'm your host, Jessica Mernan, and this is Inside Outside. I'm an author,

consultant, and a horticultural therapy practitioner, and my company

Basker helps people and businesses use nature and gardening for health, creativity, and

social well-being. Before we get to our guests, I wanted to tell you that I added a new service on

the Basker website. It's called Darding a a well-being garden. I love growing from seed,

but I've been hearing from people, they don't feel like they have the time or space, or it's just a little

too intimidating right now for them to do it. So this is a new offering about starting a garden to get all

the benefits of nature with

purchase plants. I can work with you to create a small garden in pots or a big garden in the

yard that's full of lots and lots of sensory moments. It can be so overwhelming and intimidating

to do this and I want to show you how to do it.

So I'll include a link to this in the show notes, or you can click on the work with me page on

Bascargartaggartons.com. And then one more thing. I have another group workshop that is happening.

I'll be sending this out this week, and it's how to press flowers and create cool things with them.

I know sometimes pressing flowers can feel a little bit grandma's crusty, dusty, musty, well,

there's a lot of cool grandmas that aren't crusty, dusty, messy, but a little old fashion,

I should say. And it can be so modern and so beautiful. It's something that I am absolutely addicted to right now. And for a lot of you that live in colder climates and you can't garden, this is such an incredible way to work with plants and get a little bit of that goodness from them. And it's one of my most favorite ways of doing it

inside. So I'll be sending out an email about that if you're signed up for the newsletter.

If not, there'll be a link to that in the show notes too. Okay, today's guest, it's Ali Lehman.

She is the founder of Wonderly, a design and development studio that helps

creators and brands launch memberships and grow their communities. Some of her clients include

some big food names like Molly Baz, Caroline Chambers, and Dan Pelosi, and a favorite of mine,

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