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Past Present Future

The History of Bad Ideas: Austerity

Past Present Future

D&HR Media Ltd

Society & Culture, History, News, Politics, Philosophy

4.8 • 747 Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2025

⏱️ ? minutes

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Summary

For the first episode in our new series about how bad ideas take hold, David talks to economist Mark Blyth about austerity, the cost-cutting idea that refuses to die. Why is it an article of faith that states need periodic purging to stop them getting too greedy? Why does this so often happen at times when it does most harm, from the 1930s to the financial crisis that began in 2008? And how is the politics of austerity playing out today, in Starmer’s Britain, in Milei’s Argentina and in the DOGE wars happening in Trump’s America? David’s new 20-part series Postwar – about the 1945 general election and the making of modern Britain – is available now on BBC Radio 4 and BBC Sounds https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/m002d8v1 Next time on The History of Bad Ideas: Genius w/Helen Lewis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Subject to availability, serving time supply. Hello, my name's David Rundsenman and this is past-present future, the History of Ideas podcast. Today, we're beginning a new series of episodes about the history of bad ideas.

1:11.5

We haven't done bad ideas for a while, but we have got plenty of new ones coming up.

1:16.9

And we're starting with austerity.

1:19.3

And with the economist Mark Blythe, who's written widely about why austerity is a bad idea.

1:26.5

It's a word that you hear a lot in contemporary politics.

1:29.6

We're going to be talking about why it is that politicians so often think when the going

1:34.8

gets tough, their job is to make it tougher.

1:44.0

This is a conversation mainly about politics but also about economics.

1:49.0

So there is going to be some talk in what follows about bond markets and capital flows.

1:53.9

If that's not your thing, do stick with us because, as you will hear, we get to the heart of contemporary political arguments. We will be

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talking about Doge and what's going on in the United States. We're going to be talking about

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