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Make Me Smart

The higher education business model is changing

Make Me Smart

Marketplace

News, Business

4.6 • 5.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Today we’re talking about the economics of higher education in the United States.

Though the average cost of going to college nearly tripled from 1980 to 2021, the net cost of attending both public and private institutions has started to come down. Martin Kurzweil, vice president of educational transformation at the nonprofit Ithaka S+R, traces that back to a decline in enrollment.

“Demographers will tell us that the generations of young people coming through after the baby boom, the cohort sizes, have decreased over time, and higher education is looking at what’s come to be known as a demographic cliff,” Kurzweil said.

On the show today: Kurzweil explains how college became unaffordable for many Americans, why costs have started to come down, and how a shrinking population of typical college-age students will transform higher education in the U.S.

Then, we’ll get into the repercussions of the Great Recession on the retirement wealth of younger baby boomers. And, are credit rating firms underestimating the climate crisis?

Later, listeners share how they deal with news fatigue. Plus, one listener explains what she got wrong about getting a college degree.

Here’s everything we talked about today:

    We want to hear your answer to the Make Me Smart question. You can reach us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART.

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    Hey everybody, I'm Kyle at RISDOT. Welcome back to Make Me Smart,

    1:02.0

    where none of us is as smart as all of us. It is August 1st.

    1:07.2

    And I'm Kimberly Adams. Thank you for joining us on our weekly deep dive. Today we're

    1:11.7

    going to talk about the economics of higher education in this country because there's a lot more

    1:17.6

    to it than the ultra-high sticker prices of some of the private schools that our headlines

    1:23.2

    tend to focus on. So we want to talk about what it actually costs to go to college these days,

    1:29.0

    what demographics mean for the changing cost of college, and who goes to college,

    1:33.0

    and what higher education actually means in this economy. Here to make a smart about all this

    1:37.2

    stuff is Martin Kurzweil. He's the vice president of Educational Transformation in a job title.

    1:43.1

    This is a whole lot. Educational Transformation at the Education Nonprofit, Ithaca SNR,

    1:47.2

    Martin Walkman in the show. Thank you so much for having me.

    1:51.0

    Well, let me get right to this Educational Transformation thing. So in your day job,

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