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The Preamble

The High Stakes of Haaland v. Brackeen with Rebecca Nagle

The Preamble

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.915.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ ? minutes

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Summary

Today on Here’s Where It Gets Interesting, Sharon speaks with award-winning journalist Rebecca Nagle. Sharon and Rebecca talk about an important case that SCOTUS will rule on later this spring: Haaland v. Brackeen. Learn about the history of the Indian Child Welfare Act and how the Brackeen case was built. Rebecca uses easy-to-follow language to break down the intricacies of the lawsuit, from its beginnings as an adoption case in family court to its gathering legal momentum and multiple appeals. If ICWA is ruled unconstitutional, what dominos will start to topple?

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0:00.0

Hey friends, welcome.

0:06.6

Today's guest is somebody that you have requested that I speak with many times.

0:11.1

Her name is Rebecca Nagel and she is the host of a wildly popular podcast called This

0:15.4

Land, which deals with important issues that impact Native American tribes in the United

0:22.2

States.

0:23.2

Her most recent season, which is incredibly compelling, talks about appending Supreme Court case

0:28.4

that I have spoken about, Brachian V. Holland.

0:32.4

She gives the entire backstory, how this case came to be, and this is a conversation that

0:39.2

you are not going to want to miss.

0:42.2

So let's start in.

0:44.0

I'm Sharon McMahon, and here's where it gets interesting.

0:50.3

I am very excited to be chatting with Rebecca Nagel today, who you may already be familiar

0:55.3

with. In fact, many of you have asked me to have her on as a guest.

1:00.2

And so here we are today.

1:01.7

Your request has been granted.

1:03.8

Thank you so much for being here.

1:04.8

Oh, thank you so much for having me.

1:06.4

I'm really excited for our talk.

1:08.1

Well, you are an award-winning journalist, but I wonder if you can tell us just a little

1:13.3

bit more about your background so that we can sort of lay the foundation for some of

1:18.3

the topics I wanted to discuss with you today.

1:20.6

Yeah, absolutely.

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