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Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy

The Hidden Truth Behind Affirmative Action: A Revealing Discussion with Richard Hanania

Truth with Vivek Ramaswamy

Vivek Ramaswamy

Business, News, Government

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In this eye-opening episode of "The Vivek Show," host Vivek Ramaswamy is joined by political scientist and writer Richard Hanania. They delve deep into the origins, history, and consequences of affirmative action in America. By examining the political motivations behind these policies, Richard and Vivek discuss how affirmative action has shaped institutions, influenced the education system, and affected the current cultural climate. Through their thought-provoking conversation, they explore the challenges in addressing affirmative action and its impact on meritocracy, race, and society. Richard Hanania is a Research Fellow at the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies at Columbia University. Richard's academic interests include nuclear policy, American grand strategy, political psychology, the politics of the Middle East, and international law. He also uses statistical modeling and text analysis in order to investigate the behavior of international organizations. Among other journals, his work has appeared in International Studies Quarterly and the Journal of Cold War Studies. Time-codes:00:12 - Introduction and connecting through mutual friend, Chris. 00:45 - Richard's role in Vivek's first TV appearance. 01:06 - The thoughtful criticism that sparked their friendship. 03:17 - Richard's journey from academia to writing. 05:25 - The courage to change one's mind in political discourse. 09:50 - Decline of traditional values and rise of mental health issues. 11:13 - Impact of social media and negative ideas on mental health. 12:45 - Affirmative action in America and Republican candidates. 17:05 - Nixon's strategy and expansion of racial quotas. 17:32 - Nixon's labor department extends quotas. 19:33 - Goals and timetables under Nixon. 20:03 - Nixon's manipulation of the political landscape. 21:00 - Shift in civil rights movement rhetoric. 23:50 - Tower Amendment in the Civil Rights Act. 25:14 - Gail Harriot's perspective on disparate impact. 25:58 - Disparate impact as the "skeleton key of the left." 27:15 - Disparate impact in civil rights law. 32:29 - The OFCCP's impact on corporate America. 34:15 - Texas Governor Greg Abbott's memo. 36:05 - Columbia University's transformation. 39:52 - Education polarization in the US. 40:33 - Threats to liberty in society. 42:10 - Rescinding and replacing Executive Order 11246. 52:50 - Supreme Court decision on affirmative action. 56:09 - New wave of anti-black racism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, my good friend, Richard Hennanya, I've gotten to know you over the last couple of years.

0:14.2

We had a mutual friend, Chris, who I went to law school with,

0:17.1

has been a great friend and ally of mine and vice versa,

0:21.6

a fellow basketball fan we were in law school, but he told me, he always

0:24.7

told me there's this guy, Richard, you really need to talk to him.

0:28.0

You know, Chris is not with us on the right, right?

0:30.8

He's somewhere else on the political spectrum, but independent thinker, but he always said, you know, these two guys need to get together.

0:38.3

He finally put us together.

0:40.7

And I think you got, you were helpful in getting me my first TV hit.

0:45.0

I've been now on TV like literally hundreds of times in the last couple of years.

0:50.0

I think one of my first or second TV hits you connected me with some producer long

0:53.4

before I was doing television so that was cool. But then I wrote Woe King and

0:57.8

there's the you know widely acclaimed throws the water on the spreading fire of woke ink and who do I read it's none other

1:15.6

than Richard Hennanyo which I got to say I respected because I get praise from a lot of

1:20.9

people I get thoughtless criticism from a lot of people but thoughtful criticism that's

1:27.1

worth something actually and so you know what I learned a couple of things from that

1:31.2

piece you wrote I've actually taken some of the

1:33.0

points and run with them. Even since writing Wokink and Nation of Victims, who

1:38.0

would have ever thought were human beings that evolve our thoughts? They're not

1:40.9

static over time. And you're one of the people, one of the

1:44.3

rare people I have to thank for pushing me beyond where I was even as recently as two years ago and you know I know you're the same way too

1:56.4

You're one of those rare people who's open to doing this thing that we don't do often enough

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