Welcome to the Waves, Slate's podcast about gender, feminism, and body horror.

Every episode you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing we can't get off of our minds.

And today you've got me Shannon Paulus, a senior editor atate covering science and health.

And me, Eleanor Cummins,

a freelance science journalist for Wired,

The New Republic, and of course, Slate.

Today, we're going to be talking about the mysterious symptoms that can apparently be caused by breast implants.

You might remember this issue from the 90s, when the FDA issued a moratorium on silicone boobs and David Swimmer starred in a made

for TV film called Breast Men among many other cultural touchstones on this topic from the time.

A Texas physician and his young prototype.

Making women's breasts larger?

I'm very disappointed turned that obsession.

Do you want to cut holes in me and stick bags of goo in my chest? It's all right. I'm a doctor

into a global phenomenon. You're going to be very rich men.

Both of these events involved in their own ways.

The fact that women were complaining of symptoms

like fatigue, headaches, rashes from their fake boobs.

The moratorium expired a while ago, but breast implant illness, as it's called,

is one of those things that every so often

you'll read about in a page six story,

some star like Danicapatrick or Yolanda Hadid

having their tits taken out because of the weird supposed health effects.

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