Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

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in the world of American higher education at Wyoming Catholic.edu. Robert Jackson joins us today,

as he has before. He is the executive director of Great

Hearts Institute and has become something of a national leader in classical education at the K-12

level, the Great Hearts Charter Network in Arizona and Texas that he's been a part of for several

years, being one of the major movers of that movement.

He is here to tell us where classical education is today and talk about some upcoming issues.

With the institute, welcome, Robert.

So good to be back with you, Mark. Thanks for the invitation.

Classical education has become something of a phenomenon, and you've been on the front lines for several years.

So we will tap your expertise to find out what is happening and why. Give us first the numbers on the

great parts schools. What's the trend? Yeah, I'd be happy to be happy to. Well, it has grown.

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