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So last week on the show, I bring Matt Hasselbeck on during the NFL season.

And I had Hasselbeck on, and there was a story that Diego Pavia, the wildly entertaining

quarterback for Vanderbilt, you know, and he's got some swag and little cocky.

There was a story that he was leaning into Johnny Mansell, Johnny Football, as a mentor.

And I said on the air, I'm like, I don't know if I like that.

And then Matt Hasselbeck, and I asked Matt Hasselbeck, I said, well, what do you make of that

with Johnny's turbulence in his football life?

And Matt Hasselbeck said something very interesting.

I don't actually think it's a terrible thing at all that Diego is maybe

learning from Johnny Mansell. As long as it's that same kind of thing, like, hey, man, you don't

have to do what I did. And here's why. And Hasselback said he used Jeff George as a mentor. And similarly, super talented, a little bit of turbulence.

So I said in that moment, you know, I think I'm wrong on this.

I think you can learn from anybody in life and whoever you learn from, if they give you good

advice, take it.

And Johnny Mansell found time for us to come on the show.

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