Welcome to the OC bitches. Welcome to the OC bitches. How are you? It's fine day. I'm good. I'm really good. Actually, I'm in a pretty good space. So to do this today is was a good call.

Yeah, it was a good call. Well, let's tell our listeners who's talking right now because we are so so happy to have the Patrick Norris.

One of our favorite directors, I mean, personally, for sure, from the OC, also Patrick and I have worked together on Heart of Dixie and he's done so many amazing things. I think you did six episodes over the course of the series of the OC, which, yeah, something right like six episodes.

But yeah, I mean, you have such a long career. You've directed over 150 hours of television. Some of the shows. No, Mindy, you want to say some of the shows. Yeah, no, I mean, some of the shows.

Yes, well, you said including gossip girl, Chuck Friday night lights, Heart of Dixie, Nashville, just to name a few, but I have to tell you Patrick, when I was doing the research, I couldn't find much more than your resume, except not even where you were born or your birthday.

Tell me, yeah, that's tops, that's top secret.

That's top secret. I was actually made, I was, I was created in a peachy dish back in the 50s. It was very, very crazy lab out there and I think it was single wood or something.

Are you from here Patrick? I am, I'm from California. I'm actually a native and I grew up in the San Fernando Valley. Hey, me too. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, how nice. I would, I actually walked out a van. I was high on the 10th grade. I was done.

Um, so and hit the streets because there was all kinds of hippie action going on.

That's awesome. Well, good for you. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm a Valley boy. Yeah. I love it. Valley girl, Valley boy. So you, Rachel, you grew up in the valley as well. I did. I did. Yes. I went to Notre Dame. I don't know Patrick.

Of course, I went to a lot of your carnivals. Yeah, good carnivals.

Speaking of that like in this episode, I know it ties into the episode we're going over today. Crazy metaphor there. Right. And we didn't even plan it.

And I was, I was from the world of like, you might say Ryan, I was a, I was a juvenile delinquent and to the best part and spent a lot of time in and out of so much juvenile hall out in the valley there.

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But that said, that is one of the things that connected me to the OC when I read, I watched the pilot and I went, oh my God, I know this kid.

And, you know, in, in story. And I was really, really interested in what the whole concept was around this one kid coming into this neighborhood.

Man eyes. Did you live in vani's growing up? I lived all over the valley growing up just all over. Yeah, my mom was a single mom and she worked in the business.

And she raised five kids. So we'd constantly move. Wow. Yeah, we used to move all around the valley. But I knew the valley. Well, it was my stopping ground all through the 60s.

So you started what I read in the costume department or had you done things before because becoming a director isn't easy.

Some people like we talked to Tate Donovan. He got to shadow and become a director on the OC and then Norman Buckley our editor became a director.

How did you get into that? Did you start in costume? What's your journey? Yeah, I got a job in 1973 in the laundry room at Warner Brothers.

And it's the time when you could apply for work and, you know, at a studio, they literally had employment offices.

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