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THE HASTE WAS THE KNOWN RISK: 3/8 A Shot to Save the World: The Inside Story of the Life-or-Death Race for a COVID-19 Vaccine, by Gregory Zuckerman Kindle Edition

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🗓️ 6 October 2024

⏱️ 14 minutes

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THE HASTE WAS THE KNOWN RISK: 3/8   A Shot to Save the World: The Inside Story of the Life-or-Death Race for a COVID-19 Vaccine, by  Gregory Zuckerman   Kindle Edition

https://www.amazon.com/Shot-Save-World-Life-Death/dp/059342039X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Few were ready when a mysterious respiratory illness emerged in Wuhan, China in January 2020. Politicians, government officials, business leaders, and public-health professionals were unprepared for the most devastating pandemic in a century. Many of the world’s biggest drug and vaccine makers were slow to react or couldn’t muster an effective response.

It was up to a small group of unlikely and untested scientists and executives to save civilization. A French businessman dismissed by many as a fabulist. A Turkish immigrant with little virus experience. A quirky Midwesterner obsessed with insect cells. A Boston scientist employing questionable techniques. A British scientist despised by his peers. Far from the limelight, each had spent years developing innovative vaccine approaches. Their work was met with skepticism and scorn. By 2020, these individuals had little proof of progress. Yet they and their colleagues wanted to be the ones to stop the virus holding the world hostage. They scrambled to turn their life’s work into life-saving vaccines in a matter of months, each gunning to make the big breakthrough—and to beat each other for the glory that a vaccine guaranteed.

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0:00.0

This is a new book, Ais

0:10.8

The World. I'm John Batcheter with Gregory Zuckerman. His new book is A Shot to Save the World. The

0:10.8

Inside Story of the Life or Death Race for a COVID-19 vaccine taking place

0:14.9

over many decades certainly here over all of the 21st century so far the

0:20.6

methodology of RNA not proved yet, but it's the methodology that Moderna is following.

0:27.0

Now we go to a genius, a man who is gifted, enormously gifted, his name is Dan Baruch. He is so gifted they, his colleagues, working

0:37.6

with him at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and elsewhere, come up with an adjective meaning Baruchian. Your style is Baruchian.

0:46.0

Gregory, what do we need to know about Dan Baruch and how eventually he will come to Johnson and Johnson.

0:53.0

So we talked about M. R. N. A.

0:55.0

and there were people like Benzel and Moderna spending years working on that and improving that approach.

1:00.0

But there was another approach at the same time that other scientists around the world were trying to

1:04.0

improve and it was also controversial and that's what Dan Baruch was doing. It was an approach using a virus, taking

1:10.7

a virus and using it as a vaccine as the basis of vaccine and what Dan Baruch did is use something called ad 26

1:18.2

It's a harmless cold virus and you say well why would you inject a virus in your body to heal to

1:25.6

teach the body as part of a vaccine well they render they may they change

1:30.0

the composition the chemical composition of this ad 26 virus Baruch was able to make it

1:36.5

harmless so it's a harmless virus and the idea being you're going to shepherd in a

1:41.3

genetic message.

1:42.8

The virus is going to be injected in the body

1:46.0

and it's going to carry a message.

1:47.8

And what's that message?

1:48.8

It's going to tell the new system to create a protein.

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