It's the Brian Lairscho on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone.

So if the Democratic convention this week sought to elevate Democrats' mood with its emphasis on joy,

a big challenge now is trying to further inflate the mood while convincing people she can

deflate the cost of living.

Here is one minute of Harris last night on the kind of economy she would try to create.

An opportunity economy where everyone has the chance to compete and a chance to succeed.

Whether you live in a rural area, small town, or big city.

And as president, I will bring together labor and workers and small business

owners and entrepreneurs and American companies to create jobs, to grow our economy,

and to lower the cost of everyday needs like health care and housing and groceries.

We will provide access to capital for small business owners and entrepreneurs and founders.

And we will end America's housing shortage and protect Social Security and Medicare.

Harris last night and with us now to talk about what he calls Kamelanomics

is Nobel Prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman.

He likes some parts of the Harris economic agenda more than others,

and he rejects, and this may be the headline piece, and of course we'll talk about it,

he rejects the most widely heard criticism of her anti-price-couging agenda, which some people call

price controls, and they say price controls never work. Dr. Khrutman, always good to

have you on. Welcome back to WNYC. All right. Good to be back on. So first, is there a cohesive

and articulated vision yet that deserves the name Kamlanomics? Sure. I mean, it's not really

very different from Bidenomics, at least as, you know, as, as, as, as it was at the beginning. If you look back to Biden at the start with the build back better agenda, most of what Harris is proposing now can be said to be, you know, getting, completing that, getting the parts of

buildback better that couldn't get through the Senate because the marginal senator was Joe

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