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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

The Hardest Part of Friendship; When It’s Time To Say Goodbye ft. Erin Falconer

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

We’re back with our “For the Love of Community and Friendship Series, and this week, we delve into an area of friendship that all of us may face, but inevitably dread. It’s that moment when you know a friendship has run its course, or perhaps has become toxic, or you’ve just drifted apart–and you don’t know how to go forward. When life changes, when we change, and a friendship no longer serves us, how do we gracefully (and honestly) communicate about it? Our guest this week, who is here to walk us through this touchy topic, is writer, former standup comedian and political consultant Erin Falconer. Erin's written a book called How to Break Up With Your Friends: Finding Meaning, Connection and Boundaries in Modern Friendships. Lest you think this is just a conversation on how to wipe your friend slate clean, stick around–you’ll hear Jen and Erin talk about how to create and maintain the healthiest friendships through all the seasons of our lives in order to avoid the painful friend breakup.

They also discuss:

  • Erin’s “Six Pillars of Friendship” that help us take stock of who is in our life and how we’re serving each other

  • What to do when we see a friendship has run its course or needs to shift or change in some way

  • How to keep the source of joy going in our adult friendships, and minimize the pain

It’s tough to grapple with the complexities of friendship breakups, but it all starts with building healthy relationships from the start.

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Thought-Provoking Quotes:

“There's no collectively agreed upon language out there in the zeitgeist about how to navigate conflict in [friend] relationships. There’s no blueprint for what a good one looks like, what a bad one looks like, and how to get out of good bad ones and into good ones." - Erin Falconer

“The default setting on any one relationship should be one of positivity. It's so easy to slip into negative thinking and negative conversations because they feel so good. They feel like you're seen and you're heard and done. But you have to be really careful to not lean too heavily into those things.” - Erin Falconer

“Relationships take work. To show up, you need to commit to the other person and you have to find your rhythm of what that looks like. It doesn't mean you have to be getting dinner every week, but there has to be some kind of agreed-upon level of commitment in this.” - Erin Falconer

“It is true that individuals themselves can be toxic people. That is such a small percentage of people. It is, in this case, the relationship that is toxic, and even if somebody else is behaving badly, you've allowed them to continue to show up in this way in your life. We teach people how to treat us and there's a certain degree of responsibility we need to own within these relationships because with responsibility comes freedom and power.” - Erin Falconer

“Relationships are very much a mirror to you. The more you explore these types of relationships, the more you explore yourself. To that end, understanding who is in your world is really important to understanding who you are.” - Erin Falconer

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

For the Love of Reconnecting ft. Nedra Tawwab

How to Break Up with Your Friends: Finding Meaning, Connection, and Boundaries in Modern Friendships by Erin Falconer

Marie Kondo

Guest’s Links:

Erin’s Instagram

Erin’s Twitter

Connect with Jen!
Jen’s website

Jen’s Instagram
Jen’s Twitter

Jen’s Facebook
Jen’s YouTube

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, Jim Hatmaker here, your host of The For the Love Podcast.

0:07.5

Welcome to the show.

0:09.2

We are in a series that essentially the community has asked for.

0:15.0

And it's called for the love of community and friendships.

0:19.6

This is just a deal in the community.

0:22.5

And I tell my guests this, like kind of right out of the gate, modern adult friendships

0:28.0

are just a unique space that every one of us deals with, but not a lot of people are talking about.

0:35.5

First of all, we are just women who are changing.

0:37.8

I mean, I've changed monumentally from my 20s to my 30s, from my 30s to my 40s.

0:44.0

And I know for sure I will change more in my 50s and beyond.

0:47.1

And the things that are impacting me will as well.

0:50.1

And so our priorities and our lives just evolve subsequently.

0:56.4

And the thing that we don't talk about a lot is that means a lot of our friendships will too.

1:01.8

And so as we get a little bit older, what we need becomes more defined or it might shift.

1:06.7

We may lose our game friends depending on what season we're in or what season we left.

1:12.4

I have found personally that my core friend group has gotten smaller, the older I've gotten.

1:19.0

But with the strength of bond that I definitely didn't have when my circle was wider.

1:27.0

So this is a little bit different, the older that we get for me.

1:30.6

And I've noticed and I've seen the changes.

1:32.6

And so on top of that, I think outside of just the natural shift of friendships,

1:38.7

which again, because people don't talk about a lot, it leaves us feeling adrift.

1:42.4

Like, is this right?

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