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The green bubble vs. blue bubble debate isn’t just a tech issue

Marketplace All-in-One

Marketplace

News, Business

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2023

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Remember Apple’s “Get a Mac” campaign from 2006? They featured actor Justin Long as the hip Mac computer personified in conversation with a noticeably less cool John Hodgman playing a PC. Seventeen years and plenty of tech releases later, it seems the stereotypes in those ads never really went away. Take, for example, a recent TikTok trend in which women respond to the question, “He’s a 10, but he has an Android phone. What’s his new rating?” For some, the answer is 1 or 0. Marketplace’s Lily Jamali spoke with Brian Chen, personal tech columnist at The New York Times, about “green bubble shaming.”

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0:00.0

Green bubble shaming. It's a thing.

0:04.0

From American public media, this is a Mac and I'm a PC. will remember these ads from Apple.

0:23.0

Hello, I'm a Mac and I'm a PC.

0:24.8

Whoa, whoa, what happened to you PC?

0:27.0

Kids happened.

0:28.0

The featured actor Justin Long as the hip Mac computer personified,

0:32.0

in conversation with a noticeably less cool John

0:35.6

Hodgman playing a PC. The first ad in Apple's Get a Mac campaign came out in

0:41.4

2006, 17 years and plenty of new tech releases later, it seems

0:47.0

the stereotypes in those ads never really went away.

0:51.5

Take the recent Tik-Toc trend, he's a 10, but... He's a 10, but he has an

0:56.1

Android phone. What's his new writing? One. Under what I can't do?

0:59.5

Brian Chen, the personal tech columnist for the New York Times, has been writing about

1:04.1

green bubble shaming, which has pitted iPhone users against their Android using friends

1:09.6

and family. For more than a decade, smartphone users have confronted what's known as the Blue Bubble versus

1:16.0

Green Bubble disparity. When iPhone users text other iPhone users, their messages appear as a blue bubble. When iPhone users text Android users, the messages appear green.

1:27.0

And from there, everything gets worse. Images and videos look horrible. All sorts of things break.

1:33.4

And over the years, this has created tension

1:36.5

between iPhone and Android users.

1:38.4

It's led to this deeper divide that's sociological in many ways,

1:42.4

and that's where we are today.

1:44.0

Yeah, well as you say you know this issue has been around for a long time.

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