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Discovery

The Great Science Publishing Scandal

Discovery

BBC

Science, Technology

4.31.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2019

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Matthew Cobb, Professor of Zoology at the University of Manchester, explores the hidden world of prestige, profits and piracy that lurks behind scientific journals. Each year, hundreds of thousands of articles on the findings on research are published, forming the official record of science. This has been going on since the 17th century, but recently a kind of war has broken out over the cost of journals to the universities and research institutions where scientists work, and to anyone else who wants to access the research, such as policy makers, patient support groups and the general public. Traditionally journals charge their readers a subscription, but since the start of the 21st century there's been a move to what's called open access, where the authors pay to get their articles published but anyone can read them, without charge. In Europe Plan S has called for all research funded by the public purse to be open access, by 2021. If and when this is implemented it could have downsides on learned societies who depend on income from journal subscriptions to support young researchers and on scientists in the less developed world. Some universities, and even countries, have recently refused to pay the subscriptions charged by some of the big science publishers. This has led to some scientists using a service run by a Russian hacker, which has effectively stolen the whole of the scientific literature and gives it away, free, on the internet. Matthew Cobb looks back at how the scientific publishing industry got to its current state and asks how it could change. He argues that scientists themselves need to break their addiction to wanting their articles to appear in a few well known journals, and instead concentrate on the quality of their research.

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I'm Matthew Cobb, professor of zoology at the University of Manchester,

1:08.9

and I'm going to reveal the hidden world of prestige, profits and piracy that lurks behind scientific journals,

1:16.4

a topsy-turvy system that is directly funded by you, the taxpayer.

1:22.4

Each year, hundreds of thousands of articles are published and they form the official

1:26.8

record of science. This has been going on since the 17th century but recently a kind of war has broken out. Publishers have made large profits

1:37.2

charging universities for access to taxpayer-funded research, and in response whole countries have cancelled their journal subscriptions

1:45.6

meaning that tens of thousands of scientists no longer have access to their own

1:50.3

work. To fill the gap many scientists have taken to using a service called

1:55.3

Sci Hub, run by a Kazakh hacker which is effectively stolen the whole of the

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