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Civics 101

The Great Fluoride Debate

Civics 101

NHPR

Society & Culture, Government, History

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Ever since fluoridation became widespread in the 1950s, cavities in kids have fallen drastically. The effort is considered one of the ten greatest public health achievements of the 20th century. But it’s also one of the most controversial. Today, the story of what that's so, from our sister podcast, NHPR's Outside/In.  CLICK HERE: Visit our website to see all of our episodes, donate to the podcast, sign up for our newsletter, get free educational materials, and more! To see Civics 101 in book form, check out A User's Guide to Democracy: How America Works by Hannah McCarthy and Nick Capodice, featuring illustrations by Tom Toro. Check out our other weekly NHPR podcast, Outside/In - we think you'll love it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Civics 101. I'm Hannah McCarthy. Today we're bringing you an episode from our colleagues at Outside In. The topic? Fluoride. The municipal fluoridation of water is a prime example of the kind of policy we love to dig into on this podcast. And it's very much

0:23.7

at top of mind for a lot of people right now as President Trump's nominee to run the Department of

0:28.5

Health, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has called for the reversal of longstanding government recommendations

0:34.5

to add fluoride to municipal water supplies, one of the many

0:38.9

controversial stances he's promised to bring to that job.

0:43.3

The history of local water fluoridation is complicated, which is what today's story is about,

0:49.5

as well as some surprising and conflicting ideas about whether the mineral is beneficial to our health or not.

0:57.3

Outside In host, Nate Hedgy digs into all of that and more. Let's take a listen.

1:06.9

Let's go back to the year 1901.

1:13.8

The man, a young dentist named Frederick McKay.

1:20.9

He had just arrived in a small frontier town called Colorado Springs, and as soon as he got there,

1:23.5

he noticed something strange. The townspeople, who became his dental patients, had dark brown spots all over their teeth.

1:34.7

We are talking the color of chocolate.

1:36.9

But interestingly, when he looked at them, he noticed that they didn't have cavities.

1:40.8

Brown teeth, few cavities.

1:43.6

That, by the way, is Renee Nahara. He's an epidemiologist and director

1:47.8

of public health at the College of Physicians of Philadelphia. He says Frederick McKay noticed

1:53.8

this was a regional thing. In other towns, kids had teeth that were normal for the time,

1:59.3

with plenty of cavities, but they were nice and white teeth.

2:02.5

The condition was nicknamed Colorado Brownstain.

2:05.5

Locals blamed the phenomenon on a number of things.

2:08.4

Eating too much pork, drinking funky milk.

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