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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The Great Democratic Party Freakout of 2024

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

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🗓️ 13 July 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

The Washington Roundtable: Susan B. Glasser, Jane Mayer, and Evan Osnos discuss President Joe Biden’s struggle to retain voters’ confidence in his bid for reëlection and his animosity toward the “élites” he says are insisting that he step down. Plus, Donald Trump’s campaign strategy amid Democratic turmoil and ahead of the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

“The problem is the meta-narrative, which seems to be centered on: Will Biden faceplant or won’t he?,” Jane Mayer says. “And, so long as that’s the narrative, the narrative is not on Donald Trump and the threat to democracy that he poses.”

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I don't know about you guys but I can not get down a street without people asking me what is happening

0:07.4

with Biden and with the Democratic ticket.

0:09.3

I mean it's like all of this town is talking about.

0:12.8

You know, the problem is is that if you believe anybody knows what's actually happening,

0:18.2

you know, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

0:20.2

I've literally had like extremely veteran political

0:24.9

operatives both Democrat and Republican tell me with a hundred percent

0:28.5

certainty that Joe Biden is leaving the race and with a hundred percent certainty that this is all a game of

0:35.0

quote fantasy football. This is one of those rare political stories that jumps the

0:40.4

kind of blood-brain barrier between junkies and people with actual lives.

0:45.6

Like I've been struck by the fact that I'm kind of hearing from friends who I haven't been in touch with in years who are sort of saying,

0:51.6

me too, I'm getting notes from college. been years who are sort of saying, Me too.

0:52.6

What's going on?

0:53.6

I'm getting notes from college friends

0:55.5

that I haven't heard from in ages.

0:57.4

I sat and watched Biden's interview with George Stephanopoulos

1:01.0

with my two nephew's ages seven and ten, and watching them try to

1:07.1

process this is a reminder of what's on the line man and that seven-year-old had some pretty cogent political

1:14.1

analysis he said you know look he's the by the problem is that Biden is

1:19.0

too old and you know he gave an interview but I'm not sure it really helps him.

1:23.7

Which come to think of it is just as good as anything.

1:28.7

A pundit is boring. Welcome to the political scene, a weekly discussion about the big questions in American politics. I'm Jane Mayer and I am

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