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Bulwark Takes

The GOP’s Healthcare Flimflammery Is The New Big Lie

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein and Jonathan Cohn discuss the truth behind GOP Medicaid messaging, the real impact of the proposed cuts, and why this isn’t about fraud, it’s about gutting coverage.

Check out Jonathan's piece here: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/rkf-jr-kennedy-hhs-may-have-just-ruined-our-best-weapon-against-bird-flu-moderna-mrna-covid-boosters-cdc?r=5i9ljr&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:22.1

I'm joined by Jonathan Cohen,

0:23.2

author of our newsletter The Breakdown. He's got a great one this morning. But we're not going to talk about that. You should read that, subscribe to that, go on Substack, share with all your friends, get them to subscribe to it. We want the subscribers. We're here to talk about Rosvat, Mike Johnson,

0:39.6

Medicaid, and a series of egregious lies and

0:41.5

misstatements, mistruse, whatever you

0:43.4

want to call them on our Sunday show docket

0:45.6

before we get into that subscribe to our

0:47.5

YouTube feed, which is where you're probably

0:49.6

watching this. All right,

0:51.7

Cohn, first off, congrats.

0:54.0

Your kid got married. Oh, yes, indeed. Indeed. Yeah,

0:57.4

we had a wedding last weekend and it was a that's awesome. It was good to be reminded of the good

1:02.7

things in life. So yeah, I'm very proud dad and they're super happy. So yeah, thanks. All right. I

1:09.1

remember, is this the one that I met when he was like a

1:11.1

wee little lad? Yeah, yeah, you were talking about the Red Sox. Yeah, he's still a Red Sox fan, by the way. Oh, I feel for him. I feel for him. It's been tough here. All right, let's talk Russ Vott. He's on TV. He's on State of the Union this weekend with Dana Bash. The pinpoint is, or the pressure point, I should say, is Medicaid. And they're talking about going back

1:30.0

and forth, well, say, is Medicaid. And they're talking

1:29.1

about going back and forth. Well, look, this bill you've put together that passed through the

1:32.8

House that's now awaiting action in the Senate. It has some sweeping reforms that constitute

1:37.5

cuts to Medicaid. And he is just absolutely pushing back on it in ways that are egregious.

1:43.3

Let's watch the video and then I'm going to get your reaction to it on the other side.

1:46.5

This bill will preserve and protect the programs, the social safety net, but it will make it much more common sense.

1:52.9

Look, one out of every five or six dollars in Medicaid is improper.

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