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All right, welcome to this edition of the Carl Jackson show podcast a day after the elections and actually the elections continue. It's it wasn't a great night for Republicans except in my state anyway. We'll talk about that with our guests before we get started. I want to make sure that you please subscribe to the Carl Jackson show podcast.

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I'm going to go to my guest today and I think you're really going to enjoy this this interview. His name is Ryan Bumburger and he's let me just read some of his biography. If you don't mind just for a second here Ryan.

This is from town hall Ryan Bumburger has a rather unique perspective on the nature of purpose adopted into a large multi racial family of 15. He grew up in a Christian home that exuded compassion today. He's an adoptee and adoptive father is an Emmy award winning creative professional. He is passionate about igniting and people's hearts and minds and awareness and a love of the intrinsic value.

We all possess Ryan and his wife Bethany created the radiance foundation in 2009 as a life affirming educational organization.

Do creative ad campaigns, powerful live media presentations and compassionate community outreach radiance illuminates the God given purpose with each of us praise by leaders across the country radiance is original and thought provoking work has generated massive media coverage from New York times USA today ABC world news MP are AP MS NBC man even the left wingers.

L.A. Times CNN jet charisma and and from many in the blogosphere his his too many a border dot com pro life slash pro adoption campaigns have caused the radiance foundation unsurprisingly to be denounced by the ACLU the NAACP and plan parenthood which means he's doing great work.

But no matter the opposition Ryan loves defending and celebrating beautiful possibility there's so much I even want to talk about their Ryan but let me just say welcome to the podcast. It's an honor to have you on.

It's great to be here with you Carl you know what you know I just going through your biography before we get into before we get into the topic of the day I really want to go through this column Democrat fragility that you wrote about but I do want to get your take thus far on on the elections and what and what we're seeing so far is it's completely unbelievable to me so I want to get your take on that but also for those of you that are listening.

I think I think what we saw last night is indicative of the fact that we need to support more people like Ryan bomb burger that are in the cultural fight that happened to be creatives because I feel like Ryan we are screwing up big time when it comes to messaging in the conservative movement.

100% I mean you got the radical progressive left that has all the sonic candy they have the eye candy and meanwhile conservatives and or Christians sometimes they're not the same have have a problem knowing how to even talk about the issues they don't have to frame the issues their messaging stings and how you can bat a hashtag love is love but you got to think through it and figure out how do you counter that I mean how do you how you counter you know.

Doesn't matter who you love well actually it does matter who you love I mean these are the kinds of things on all these issues the social moral spiritual issues where conservatives lag so far behind and while the left is out there like trumpeting and explicitly parading their insane propaganda the GOP is like well let's talk about the social issues this I talk about let's back off.

How that never does the GOP we never win when we're afraid to talk about what we're passionate about and the left does and they did last night over and over again ballot initiatives on abortion they want they want in three states in shining abortion as a constitutional right in Vermont in California and I'm missing one Michigan in state of Michigan three states now in trying abortion as a constitutional right the left.

They just crush us on messaging you know and and what's funny I even listen to some of the people on Fox News well abortion it apparently this did show up and I'm sitting there thinking well why didn't abortion show up in places like Florida where we won literally I mean we have never seen numbers like this before Ryan where

Rhonda Santis a Marco Rubio they talked about the issue of life and they won by nearly 20 points in Florida typically if you win by two points you're talking about that's a red way they run they won by 20 but they took on cultural issues but they also explain them away I love the I want to go back to this because you said

you know the left will talk about love is love and you said no no actually it isn't you know love isn't love I forget exactly how you framed it but it's like arguments like that we need to know how to come back like no is love love when a pedophile likes a you know a little child I mean we we have to be able to combat these arguments take them on and then and then just kind of kind of move on which is why it's so honestly it's I got to say this Ryan

I was sitting here thinking oh my god why did we book a guest the day after the elections but honestly when I went back and I read your bio and looking at the results of the election I'm like you're the perfect person to have on because you're exactly what the Republican party forgot say people the Republican party hire this guy we

yeah I'm sorry I'm a little friend no I am too it's so frustrating to see us lose on messaging and you got to you got to society has you know like attention deficit disorder where it's and it's not I'm not putting anybody down but we're so distracted by so much noise out there I mean

for instance the whole love is love well we don't want to and as a Christian we have to see it this as well I can love every human being but I don't have to love every human doing and if we actually emphasize that this whole nonsense about love is love first of all

we learn elementary school that you don't use a word to define the word and as Christians we have to take the position that we understand from a

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