The God of the Bible and the God of the Philosophers | Prof. Eleonore Stump

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🗓️ 27 March 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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This talk was given via Zoom to the students at Trinity Western University on February, 9th 2023. For more information please visit thomisticinstitute.org. About the speaker: Eleonore Stump is the Robert J. Henle Professor of Philosophy at Saint Louis University, where she has taught since 1992. She is also Honorary Professor at Wuhan University and at the Logos Institute, St.Andrews, and she is a Professorial Fellow at Australian Catholic University. She has published extensively in philosophy of religion, contemporary metaphysics, and medieval philosophy. Her books include her major study Aquinas (Routledge, 2003), her extensive treatment of the problem of evil, Wandering in Darkness: Narrative and the Problem of Suffering (Oxford, 2010), and her far-reaching examination of human redemption, Atonement (Oxford, 2018). She has given the Gifford Lectures (Aberdeen, 2003), the Wilde lectures (Oxford, 2006), the Stewart lectures (Princeton, 2009) and the Stanton lectures (Cambridge, 2018). She is past president of the Society of Christian Philosophers, the American Catholic Philosophical Association, and the American Philosophical Association, Central Division; and she is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Tomistic Institute podcast.
0:06.8	Our mission is to promote the Catholic intellectual tradition in the university, the church, and the wider public square.
0:13.1	The lectures on this podcast are organized by university students at Temistic Institute chapters around the world.
0:19.1	To learn more and to attend these events, visit us at to mystic institute.org.
0:27.9	I'm very pleased to be with you today, and I'm really impressed at the number of people you've got on your Zoom session.
0:34.8	So let's talk about the God of the Bible and the God of the Philosophers.
0:42.6	It's common among contemporary theologians and philosophers to suppose that the God of the
0:48.1	Bible is radically different from the God of the Philosophers. The God of the philosophers is
0:53.3	generally understood to be the God of classical
0:55.6	theism, the God of Aquinas, for example. And some contemporary thinkers suppose that there is an
1:02.4	inconsistency between the description of God given by the Bible and the characterization of God
1:09.4	upheld by classical theism.
1:11.6	They suppose that the biblical portrayal is greatly preferable to the account of God accepted by classical theism.
1:20.6	Now, to see the apparent inconsistency, take first the presentation of God in the Old Testament and consider, for example, the Bible story of Jonah.
1:34.9	God comes to talk to Jonah, and Jonah knows God and recognizes God's voice right away in the story.
1:43.0	God tells Jonah to go to Nineveh and warn the people that their city will be destroyed in 40 days.
1:50.6	Jonah not only understands what God is saying to him, he understands that it's God who's saying it.
1:56.6	Only Jonah doesn't want to do what God is asking him to do.
2:04.6	And so he reacts to God's speech by taking ship to a far country.
2:16.3	Once Jonah is on board ship, God responds to Jonah's attempt to run away by making a violent storm that imperils everyone on the ship.
2:20.6	When the sailors cast lots to see whose fault it is that there's a storm, God somehow brings it about that the lots come out to indicate Jonah. And when
2:27.4	Jonah's urging, the sailors throw Jonah overboard in consequence. God responds to their action by calming the sea for them.
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