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The God Box

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News, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

To understand the fierce and widespread backlash to environmental, social and governance investing — and more specifically, climate-conscious investing — it helps to first understand its humble origins. Part of that history began about as far from Wall Street as possible, spiritually anyway, with faith-based investors.  


In this episode of “How We Survive,” we travel to the hub for religious investors: the God Box in New York City, aka The Interchurch Center. We trace the parallel tracks of religious investors and Wall Street stakeholders back in time to find out how ESG became the polarizing strategy it is today.



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0:00.0

I want to confess something kind of embarrassing, which is when I first read Larry Fink's letter,

0:06.1

I thought, oh, wow, you know, are the big money firms going to save us?

0:10.5

Do you think I was naive?

0:13.1

I think a lot of people found a glimmer of hope in Larry Fink's letter addressing climate risk.

0:21.4

I'm talking to Kelly Mitchell.

0:23.2

She runs an oil and gas watchdog group called Field Notes.

0:27.7

And that letter we're talking about was a big deal.

0:30.9

It was January 2020.

0:33.5

And Larry Fink, the co-founder and head of Black Rock, a big investment firm, put out his annual letter to corporate CEOs.

0:41.9

This morning and the world's largest asset manager announcing the firm will make climate change a focus of all of its investment strategy.

0:48.9

These letters always made a splash. BlackRock invests trillions of dollars globally on behalf of individuals saving for retirement or their kids' college, as well as corporations and governments.

1:03.9

So companies that want some of that money pay attention to what he says.

1:09.2

And for several years, Kelly says, Fink had been increasingly

1:12.9

raising the profile of so-called ESG issues.

1:17.6

ESG stands for environment, social, and governance. And at its heart, it's a series of tools

1:25.1

that companies and investors can use to analyze risk.

1:29.3

I know it sounds wonky, but the idea is simple that issues like climate change or labor

1:36.1

conditions or boardroom diversity can have a material impact on a company's bottom line.

1:42.9

That January 5 years ago, Fink's letter focused on the E in ESG

1:48.4

environment. He said climate change had become a defining factor in companies' long-term prospects

1:55.4

and that BlackRock would invest its clients' money and use its shareholder power to push for changes accordingly.

2:03.8

Here's how he described it on CNBC.

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