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Here's my colleague, Johnny Diamond.

Twice now in the last few weeks, the Saudi capital of React has played host to the biggest

movers and shakers of the war in Ukraine, Russia, America and of course

the Ukrainians themselves. Why Riyadh? Because of one man's influence. Saudi Arabia's

effective ruler, Mohammed bin Salman, known near universally by his initials MBS. Just a few years ago, he was publicly identified as the man

who ordered the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, tortured, killed and dismembered in the

Saudi consulate in Istanbul. As a result, MBS was called a pariah by no less than Joe Biden.

But he's also the man who's driven the modernization and diversification of the desert kingdom.

Now he has made Riyadh a place where the world comes to try and do deals.

So, how did Muhammad bin Salman go from Pariah to peacemaker?

With me today is Jonathan Rugman, journalist, author and the producer of the BBC TV series The Kingdom

about the life of the Saudi Crown Prince.

It's a pleasure, Johnny.

Can we start with The Man?

I mean, how much do we know of what Mohammed bin Salman is like as a person?

It's a very good question.

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