The Global Battle to Regulate Technology

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🗓️ 12 September 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The United States, the European Union, and China are involved in intense conflicts to control the digital economy, both within their borders and globally. Anu Bradford, the Henry L. Moses Professor of Law and International Organization at Columbia Law School, provides a framework for understanding and assessing these conflicts in her new book, entitled “Digital Empires: The Global Battle to Regulate Technology.”

Jack Goldsmith spoke to Bradford about why the EU rights-driven model is in ascendancy in the West and what this means for the U.S. tech companies that are the primary targets of EU regulation—and for innovation more generally. They also spoke about the tech wars between the United States and China, whether U.S. techno-protectionism is a good idea, how far the United States has departed from its 1990s-style Internet freedom agenda, and how well China's state-driven model is faring in authoritarian countries.

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0:25.6	No Bull and The Aftermath and this is something that I think the U.S. would need to take seriously
0:37.7	that has it forgotten how to play to its own strengths and whether it can defend its model
0:45.5	anymore as the source for peace and prosperity and greater freedom. And I worry a little
0:52.6	bit that the Europeans are now also moving to play that same game. So the Europeans are obsessed
0:58.0	now with strategic autonomy and technological self-sufficiency and since they have the ability through
1:04.4	the Brussels effect to influence the regulatory environment around the world, if the Europeans are
1:09.9	also now converting their regulations towards an instrument of protectionism. I think that's exactly
1:16.7	what the European companies are done confronting when they are trying to operate in third markets
1:22.1	because then the Brussels effect it is a effective tool to export good and bad regulations alike.
1:29.2	I'm Jack Goldsmith and this is the LawFair podcast September 12, 2023. The United States,
1:36.1	the European Union and China are involved in intense conflicts to control the digital economy
1:42.2	both within their borders and globally. A new Bradford's new book entitled Digital Empires,
1:48.3	the Global Battle to Regulate Technology provides a framework for understanding and assessing
1:53.3	these conflicts. I spoke to Bradford about why the EU rights-driven model is an ascendancy in the West
2:00.2	and what this means for the US tech companies that are the primary targets of EU regulation
2:05.3	and for innovation more generally. We also spoke about the tech wars between the United States and China
2:11.4	whether US techno protectionism is a good idea, how far the United States has departed from its 1990s
2:17.9	style internet freedom agenda and how well China's state-driven model is faring in authoritarian
2:23.1	countries. It's the LawFair podcast September 12, the Global Battle to Regulate Technology.
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